SAT., MAR. 22: LILY AND THE LADIES + MORE @ THE SCENE
Nicole Patterson
I often say that if California were to break off from the main continent and become an island it would be no big deal. After all, we already have Hadley’s date shakes, Morongo Casino, Pioneer Town and Venice Beach. We also have more than enough good musical acts to entertain us, and several of the best played at the Scene Bar in Glendale on Saturday. The evening began with a rare appearance by Last Kind Words, a collaboration between Gabe Hart (Jail Weddings), returning to Starvations territory, and Matty Rue (of San Francisco darlings The Holy Kiss) in a snarling epic descent into torrid murder ballad territory. The band was rounded out on drums by Warren Thomas of Long Beach’s Grand Elegance, looking laid-back and nonchalant as if he had been transported via time machine from a poolside, plopped right behind a drum set and said “Fuck it, why not?” Lily Marlene (Lily and the Ladies) debuted a new backing band, which lived up to its description—in her words “reallllly heavvvy”. Lily always has an amazing ability to translate her stark blues into practically any form and still have it work and tonight was no exception. Her set ran from strait renditions of material from her solo repertoire to full out rock songs to a sweeping ballad that would put Journey to shame—all with out batting an eye. Trash blues-champions and Scene Bar-favorites The Guilty Hearts played next. Their usual high energy rollicking was punctuated with hillarious banter between bassist Edgar Rodriguez and lead singer/guitarist Leon Catfish in their notorious never-ending one liner contest. The Holy Kiss took the stage at around 12 (the witching hour appropriately) and preceded to reinvent the genre with their epilleptic blues. Lead singer Matty Rue throws himself all over the stage like a tall black scarecrow, howling the refrain “sooo sick and tired of crying!” California, you’re alright.
— Lauren Everett
A “strait” is a narrow passage. The word you want to use is “straight.”
Also “preceded” means to go before, the word you’re looking for is “proceeded.”
“Hillarious” should be spelled “hilarious.” And “epilleptic” should be spelled “epileptic.” It’s called spell check and all word programs have it.
Bang up job, Lauren and editor! Very professional work. The L.A. Record will be taken seriously any day now at this rate.
California, you’re retarded.
go back to college
if this bothers you than i must warn you to not read anything jeff weiss writes…
If the only criticism you can come up with is spelling, I’ll take that as a compliment!
Also, colleges usually doesn’t offer spelling classes.
xo
Lauren
Ha ha, make that “don’t”
Go back to college? More like go back to highschool. I don’t know about you guys but I learned the basics in 9th grade. I sometimes forget that the L.A. Record clique is mentally still stuck in perpetual highschool.
We all know L.A. Record is just a big vanity project for shit bands and their friends to read, it’s a glorified zine. But eventually don’t you think you’ll get tired of sitting at the kiddy table of music journalism?
What’s the point of creating an alternate music forum if the only thing different is that you don’t use spell check?
It doesn’t bother me, except that Lily and company deserve much better than that. But if you want to do a disservice to the music, the readers, and yourself go for it.
You’ll grow up some day.
Technically we are actually the BIGGEST vanity project in town.
I wouldnt read my site either then. Its looooooooaded with typos
i bet you are a 25 year old office assistant that works at an insurance company…
The spell nazi has a point -
Personally? I’ll take typo laced L.A. RECORD content over more “professional” mags any day.
Are you that guy from Vampire Weekend? John Heru Basil didn’t mean anything by that review…
Those aint typos, typos is where your fingurs hit the rong key, those werds is just mispelt.
typo
n : a mistake in printed matter resulting from mechanical failures of some kind [syn: misprint,erratum, typographical error, literal error, literal]
Could failure to run spell check be considered a mechanical error? I’m going to stop posting on this subject before more of my own egregious errors get highlighted.
I smell my own ass.
Misspellin is a sine of a lack of edgacation, not nessarilly a sine of ignarnce ( altho you culd be dumm too.)
sigh. “typo” also means that you’ve been at your day job for eight hours and you are slammed with other stuff. I went to high school and college (university actually). Give me a break. If some one were colorblind would you be so upset??
I’ll give ya a break anytime, wuz just playin’ girl!
Lily goes to the trouble of writing and performing music for you but you can’t be bothered to take two minutes to run a spell check?
A typo is when you hit the wrong key, these were full on misspellings and even incorrect word usage. I caught four mistakes, there’s probably more, and this is only a 300 word review.
Stop pretending that you have some kind of disorder comparable to being colorblind. There’s no physical or mental hinderance keeping you from running spell check. This is lazy journalism and it belittles everyone involved.
Cloak– Keep guessing. I’ll give you a hint. I’m older than you and my job is better than yours.
critique + belabouring the point = John
ha i highly doubt your job is better than mine and while you might be older than 25 you still seem like a bitter old hater. did you dream of starting a zine and or start a really crappy one and have it fall apart because you are too lazy? don’t be mad cause you aren’t on the grind!! hey you get to look forward to building your 401K and prostate examinations. i bet you have a mac sticker on your car too…
Jon rote - “I caught four mistakes, there’s probably more, and this is only a 300 word review.”
Shuld b “there are probably more..”
Holla Hata!
I would like to take this forum as an opportunity to congratulate Chris, Charlie, Dan, Phil, Sarah, Ryan, and Nikki on an amazing accomplishment. Not only have you pushed a small startup poster fanzine to a paper with a sizable circulation and a loyal following, you have also achieved in expanding the print edition and launching a great looking website. Not everyone can summon the enthusiasm, as well as the necessary endurance, not to mention the organizational camaraderie required to edit, publish, and distribute a free magazine in Los Angeles. You can be very proud of yourselves and your commitment to music and art, and I am happy to contribute to your editorial content as often as time allows. Take constructive criticism for what it is: an opinion that in the least you are allowed to disagree with, and at the most suggestions which will help you to grow.
I rule.
haters = success
damn that guy was for real?
Wow, John, really? You have nothing better to do than criticize a publication trying to offer an alternative to the diarrhea wipers that normally pass for music journalism? Is Rolling Stone really that appealing to you? John Mayer’s guitar really has your panties all twisted up in a twitter?
Oh really, you don’t like Rolling Stone either? Oh I see, The Fader, yes, I totally read The Fader to, lets run down to Barne’s n Noble and grab one. Oh I forgot, it costs almost five bucks after taxes.
Next time I write an article for your amusement I’ll be sure to use the Latin Alphabet and Roman numerals to line up with your Greek douche mentality.
A clique? Hardly, I live in New York where I attended and graduated from one of the top university’s in the country and I’m currently on the roller coaster that is graduate school. And guess what? I still can’t spell.
Maybe your problem is not with our educations and how far we decided to pursue higher degrees but the fact that we get recognized for our content despite our small overburdened staff, all of whom work tirelessly after our day jobs have ended to churn out a first rate stab at something better than the slop other business men and “journalists” throw at you in an pathetic attempt to get your hard earned cash. If you think Any other magazine is after anything but your dollar you’re wrong (I’ve spent the past decade working at mainstream publications). We try our hardest here to never pander to our readers, treat your intellect with respect, and use integrity when speaking to you. I’d rather read something written with enthusiasm and love than cold hard marketing and research. We respect you, if a few misspelled words on the way means you have less respect for us, as my editor Chris likes to say, if you notice a problem, you’re offering to fix it, otherwise keep it to yourself. I’m not kidding John, if you’d like to be a part of the LA Record clique (since you obviously harbor some cool kid resentment) send us an e-mail and we’ll get you started on copy ASAP. And it will be worth your while too, we offer college credit and sign internship papers.
PS, I’m sure everyone here at the LA Record really appreciates your youthful assumptions abut our collective age. I personally would have loved to have had the financial means to do something like this in my early twenties.
Seriously, send us your rez, we’ll get you set up with an internship.
Nikki
Haha…nice job Nikki…I think he has been firmly put in his place
Well put Nikki and Rena!
Before you all start high fiving and sucking each other off (as usual), let’s just review what happened here. Someone dared to challenge the prestigious LA Record to use spell check and as a result was accused of being a 25 year old spell Nazi office assistant at an insurance company who reads Rolling Stone and The Fader and listens to John Mayer (by the way, you’re still way off, but keep guessing, it amuses me to see what you actually think of people). And then you offered me a job?! Insult to injury.
Nikki, you’re not writing an article for my “amusement,” you’re writing it to promote good music. That’s how it should be anyway. I have a feeling when you write it’s more about promoting and amusing yourself and your little friends than it is about the music.
Yes, we all bow down to Chris, the man with the vision who works every waking moment and never ever sleeps. He must be pretty damn busy if he doesn’t even have two minutes for spell check.
You went to a fancy university and you can’t spell? That sucks. And did wasting all your money also somehow impair your ability to use spell check?
Yes, you really respect your readers. Just look how you’re treating me alone. What an incestuous little hornet’s nest I stirred up with the LA Record clique. Lauren was wrong, Los Angeles, and not California (people in LA always think LA is all of California) should break off into the ocean. It might as well though for how much difference LA music makes in the world at large. Why do you think LA’s music scene is so fucking stale and boring? Plus I’d love to watch some kind of Lord of the Flies scenario go down on LA Record Island. Think your little clique could survive it? There’s only one way to find out.
Okay resume high fives and cock sucking.
Dude, if it bugs that much, go away. Since obviously what we started out of love and a sincere effort to unify our community is of no interest to you. Like many a journalist before you you’ve already made up your mind so why bother.
No, we don’t always have perfect copy but we try to throw affordable nights of entertainment, donate to local charities during the Holiday’s put out as much good copy as we can.
Writing to promote good music? That’s my hope. Regretfully you don’t see our efforts. This thing is put together with a fragile fist of our own dollars, we don’t get paid, we work after our other jobs have ended. We do LA Record because hopefully it ads a little joy and levity and intellectual stimulation to someone’s day.
So if it turns your stomach so much, then don’t read it.
One last thing, don’t come at me with your fake bullshit “I don’t mind” crap when obviously you mind very much, enough so to take time out of your life to sit and write on this blog, rather than shake your head with annoyance and move on. I’m responding because I work hard and am passionate about what I do, why do you give such a rats ass? Pick up the new issue of Arthur and fuck off already. Hi five’s? Dud,e how old are you?
PS. Chris works harder than you whacking off to your own reflection any day of the week. And judging by what a smarmy kiss your own ass kind of asshole you are, that’s pretty damn hard.
PPS. Don’t fuck with Chris.
Haha. I’ve never been part of a clique before…maybe we should all go hang out in the quad at lunch…dude, stop complaining, and like Nikki said, just stop reading. I hear Spin is still in business.
Hahaha we would totally survive and hey we can all be thankful we don’t live in Portland or something. Then life would be really depressing!
Let the record show Nikki just slagged Arthur. I think the insinuation was that Arthur is for old people.
I’m going to go eat food now but when I get back I expect more rage :)!!
Jesus Christ spell nazi John! I agreed that you had a point about the spelling errors (and implied you were in Vampire Weekend, low blow, sorry). L.A. RECORD is young publication. It is natural for there to be growing pains and fuck-ups. It’s natural for smart asses to point them out. This leads to a process called ‘improvement’. One of the reasons I enjoy reading L.A. RECORD is because they review exceptional artists like your beloved Lily that are largely ignored by the mainstream press. Some people do not agree with you, but that doesn’t mean they are part of a clique. At any rate, I believe you just got asked to join the “clique”. Will you do all of us a favor and write a review of Lily and the Ladies you think they deserve?
The fires have been stoked
Chris, if you read this, we need to have a conversation. I think John has some valid concerns.
Putting the paper together is a breeze. All we do is drink mojitos in our loft and laugh about every band rippin’ off Blue Cheer. I’d take a bullet for CZ.
mojiiiiiiiiiitos
I, personally, have not received one suck off from any fellow LA Record writer or editor. John, if you are correct in your assertion that this is editorial policy at the Record, I am going to give the rest of the staff a piece of my mind. To think this whole time I’ve been writing for free while everyone else was getting mouth jobs.
No, I love love love love Arthur! And Charlie works just as hard as Chris! Charlie and Chris bring love and hard work.
Also, I’m taking too much credit. This thing was a labor of love brought together by some nerdy smart music lovin dudes. I joined the team last year but I’d go down with the band and drown. These guys really kill themselves and turn their hair white and yes, don’t sleep because they care so much.
High five guys! Who wants their cocksucked? Anyone else have this tshirt idea? L.A. RECORD: A clique of cocksucking music critics
MmmMmMmmmm cock!
Also great shirt idea
Nikki, stop deluding yourself. This is not some altruistic effort to expose good music to good people and better your community. I mean, do you want to save the world, or rule the world? Because there is a big fucking difference.
You know in your heart of hearts you just want to be as famous as Lester Bangs and sit at the Little Joy spinning your record collection and getting drunk. Actually a lot of you are probably closer to Nick Kent, i.e. frustrated musicians who turn to criticism.
High fives? How old am I? Did you read A.R., Cloak, and DJ Short Shorts responses? They practically gave you a “You go girl!” That’s called a high five and that’s what high schoolers do—they high five. You are a high school clique. But you don’t hang out in the quad, you meet at the Smell and The Scene and you don’t pass notes, you pass The LA Record.
Just because Lauren actually is a 25 year old office assistant at an insurance company doesn’t mean she should get away with shit writing. She even made an insulting analogy between her inexplicable inability to use spell check and being color blind. But she basically did admit to being guilty as charged. Rena’s the only person who has even tried to be diplomatic and use her fucking brain. Shit, even Chris responded with a sense of humor about himself. But all his little minions just exploded with rage and ganged up on me, using their fragile fists to protect Chris’ fragile fro.
You’re in poor company, Ziegler. Poor company.
I love hearing your stabs in the dark to try to fit me into some stereotype. First it was Rolling Stone, and then it was The Fader, now it’s Arthur and Spin? Why not throw in Razor Cake? Afraid to piss off the Razor Cake people?
I’m sure Legs McNeil had plenty of errors in his zines but that was thirty years ago! We have computers and we have spell check, use that to your advantage! Grow up! Do you actually consider it rebellious to not comply with spelling rules? Do you think it makes you a punk rock bad ass? Because it doesn’t. All it does is disappoint and turn off readers—most of whom know the difference between “preceeded” and “proceeded.” But as I said, if you’re content to sit at the kiddy table, then you go girl! I mean do you have any fucking idea how much shit writing there is on the internet? Everyone’s got some fucking music blogs, and you’re just going to add to that shit writing? You can do better.
Forgive me for having standards and attempting to elevate the standards of others. I just think we can do better.
Don’t fuck with Chris? What are you going to do to defend your king, Nikki? You going to kick me out of the club? You going to meet me at Burrito King after class, buy me a burrito and then punch me in the stomach and watch it fly out of my fucking face?
In closing, yes, it’s fucking hard work putting out The LA Record, you knew that when you all started. But I’m going to let you in on a little secret—you know what’s not hard at all???? SPELL CHECK!!! Seriously, a 300 word review can be spell checked in less than two minutes. All you have to do is click on the tools tab in word and it’s the first option. It’s considered courteous to the musicians, it doesn’t insult your readers’ intelligence, and it can only make your publication better.
As for your invitation, I’ll only join your clique if you kick college scum poseurs like Nikki out.
That’s funny. Believable too. A lot of you people would do something dumb like that.
Wow looks like a heated argument!
wow. whats funny is all this was spawned from typos.
Please come back John we look forward to reading your AWESOME comments
Man who gives a shit about all this.
“Fuck you, fuck you, you’re cool, fuck you.”
I didn’t know L.A. RECORD was even at the level to be taken seriously. I still use it to wrap presents.
In my defense, I’d never tell anyone “go girl.” Ever!
Burrito King sounds good, though, think i’ll go after sixth period!
jonizahkoksukkr
“…sit at the Little Joy spinning your record collection and getting drunk.”GUILTY as charged, although I much prefer Julian Cope to Nick Kent.
John, how’s the review coming? Perhaps you can fit in 300 words or so in between your daily output of net vitriol?
I’ll give you one thing John, like my mom banging the vacuum up against my locked door, you don’t give up.
For the record, I don’t drink (as in I’m sober), haven’t been to Little Joy since 2003-the last time i lived in Los Angeles- have never been to Burrito King, when in LA I’m more a Roscoe’s Chicken n Waffles kind of girl, have actually held three issues of the LA Record in my hand, no less handed one out to any of my friends who could give a rats ass about it. Seeing that they all do college scum poseur things like read stuffwhitepeoplelike.com (because it’s about them), work in the private political sector and publishing as book jacket editors.
I’m afraid though you would hate me, but for entirely different reasons, I’m voting for Hilary Clinton because she’s a woman, don’t like Macs, don’t know how to turn on a record player (you can check old la record board posts in which I bemoan the death of c.d’s) jog around a soccer field in Williamsburg to loose weight and stay fit, practice yoga and want a to adopt an abused pug because their cute.
As far as being famous, hell yeah! Thanx for helping me get there friend, unfortch I’m sort of hoping to write more of a gender policy/sociological study type of thing. I’m more of an Ariel Levy, Jill Hirshman, Ann Snitow, Susan Sontag kind or reactionary bitch.
I do own records though! The Divine Miss M, Judy Garlands Greatest Hit’s, and Zeffirelli’s Romeo and Juliet soundtrack- all thumbtacked to my wall because I like the covers. And Lester Bangs was very smart and adorable, like a dumpling cured in Cough Syrup.
AHAHAHAHA this is amazing (high fives)! Wait ’till I tell the gals at the insurence agency about this one!
As exciting as this is, and as big of a mystery the whole spell check scenario appears to be, the truth will be a bit of a let down. Yes, I’m a crappy speller, something I came to terms long ago. I don’t have Word on my computer, and I was trying to meet a deadline so I wrote it on Yahoo email. My browser usually underlines misspelled words in red, but for some reason didn’t catch those words. So there it is.
So “John”, if you have any insightful critique on the actual CONTENT, that might actually be of value. Otherwise your arguement for why you don’t like this review is akin to hating a film because you saw the boom mike in a shot. Small minded, petty, and utterly devoid of substence.
Okay, “Lauren,” you want me to write a review of your review? I think you have some confused ideas about the purpose of your writing but…
It was adequate, a couple sentence blurbs about each band, standard stuff. The Journey reference is uncalled for. And we all know Edgar and Leon’s stage banter isn’t hilarious but it’s like what are you going to write about with those guys?
Now back to the spelling errors (which I’ve noticed you’re starting to make on purpose in your responses–nice), I don’t know what shitty low budget 70’s porn you’ve been watching but the filmmakers I watch generally tend to keep the boom out of frame.
Also, what makes you think that I’d be interested in any of the behind the scenes narratives and excuses regarding your shoddy work? I’m sure they have word on one of the computers at the office, why don’t you spend less time on myspace and craigslist and spend some more time working on the review, here’s a good link- Dictionary.com
But it’s not even your job; it’s the editor’s responsibility to proof read.
That said, don’t quit your day job (insurance was it?).
AHAHAHAHA
“John”, I have actually never set foot in an insurance office. Never the less, your condescending attitude towards people who have to work for a living is duly noted.
“Lauren,” (note that the comma belongs inside the quotes if you’re in America, you’re learning a lot in this dialogue) I believe “Cloak” began the insurance slurs as a way of making me feel bad for expecting correct spelling. I was just going with it.
I just think it’s hilarious that people at The LA Record think that because they work day jobs and don’t get paid for writing about music that they can do a shit job. I’ve got news for you, the most important things any of you will ever do in life will not pay you a dime. Get used to it.
Sincerely,
“John”
It’s true, I am learning a lot about grammer and punctuation. In fact, it seems like the only person who would know SO much about it would have at some point been either a copy editor or perhaps a grammer school teacher…
Nope, I’ve never been a copy editor or grammar (not “grammer”) school teacher. Just paid attention in school.
*cough*
*yawn* you guys should hook up already.
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